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2007/11/24

Max Mesiria Chp2 RPG



"Max Mesiria Chp2 RPG" is, simply, a marvel - from what have been revealed so far by Snails Animation on the Mesiria series, it looks like something very promising and can easily rival - or even surpass - some of the most highly acclaimed RPG titles of all time on SNES!

Ghost Breaker Badge (medium – 15 points)
Complete the second part of Gustave's adventure.

In this second chapter of the journey of Gustave, he can reach level 15 at most; depending on your playing style, you can either choose to rack him up a bit or rely more on the items. Follow the story and you should do fine, though if you are stuck in anywhere, you can always press Enter and view the "Hint" section.

And that's all I'm going to say about the main plot - I am a hardcore and have a very strict guideline on spoilers for myself. This is really a good game and deserves to be played through, not just walked through in an absence of mind.


Ultimate Monster Slayer Badge (impossible – 60 points)
Exert your dominance over 51 waves of evil creatures to complete Battle Mode.

"Battle Mode."

The two words that can squeeze sweat out of the most experienced batch of players.

People used to argue over which game has the hardest impossible badge, "Orbular" or "Streamline". But now it seems that the answer has been undisputedly settled upon this one.

Since it has been rather clear that luck plays a prominent role to your success over the Battle Mode, there can be no possible rigid walkthrough which gives you a full guarantee for beating it. I can hence only show you a collection of the most useful resources which may help you completing this challenge.


Battle Guide

The most detailed, and also the most useful guide on the Battle Mode available so far is the one written down by x1372 inside Kongregate's forum. In case the post has been lost, a copy can be found in here. This guide offers a whole lot of greatly optimized tactics and is basically a necessity for every Battle Mode challenger. Though like I said, depending on your luck, you may find things being either easier or harder than described by this guide, and you will want to make some minor adjustments to have it fit into your very own condition.


Battle Sequence

Below is a sequential list on what you can expect to encounter inside the Battle Mode:

► HP: 80
► HP: 90
► HP: 100
► HP: 115
► HP: 130
► HP: 145
► HP: 160
► HP: 175
► HP: 190
► HP: 210
► HP: 230
► HP: 250
► HP: 270
► HP: 290
► HP: 320


Full Bestiary

Here is the .sol file that contains the complete bestiary. Download and put it into the LSO directory of the game and you can read it from the Battle Mode screen; it's not the same with the bestiary you can view inside the main game. Or you can view it below:

► Bestiary #1 ~ 5
► Bestiary #6 ~ 10
► Bestiary #11 ~ 15
► Bestiary #16 ~ 20
► Bestiary #21 ~ 25
► Bestiary #26 ~ 27


Cheats?

Righto, what about cheats? Many of you probably be in here for this specific reason.

Aside from those two anti-cheat countermeasures we have introduced a few days ago, a third method which is popular among certain developers is to implement _root.values. This is a bad practice, from the perspective of coding, yet for some curious reasons, Cheat Engine is having problems scanning for any _root.values, and some game coders have been using this fact against Cheat Engine users. Which is exactly the method this game is using and also why you are seeing almost no people hacking it on Kongregate - because they are not able to. Though this is of course not the end of the story:




[How to Kongregate] Max Mesiria Chp2 RPG Battle Mode Walkthrough

The full video lasting 12 minutes can be downloaded here; these are all you will be getting from me on how to cheat inside the Battle Mode. No, it's not Cheat Engine, but you will have to discover how on yourself. The game has my respect already so you will not be learning that from me.

Rating



Your eyes are not having problems, it's real freaking six stars. This can't even explain how good it is, and how one would know when it's the next time we can see such a wonderful RPG title on the Flash platform that could match the Mesiria series.

As an extra, here is why I said it is rather lame for any Flash game that fails to feature any music. If you were having a sense of déjà vu when you were loading up "Bot Arena 3", that's actually not some illusion but good memory - the music in the main menu of "Bot Arena 3" is the same with the music of the final boss in the main plot of "Max Mesiria Chp2 RPG":


- ::: A Ghost Rider ::: by Jeremy Southern

And their respective developers happened to pick up and implement the same music - which is free. So now you see why those soundless games are lame, when there are so many free resources to choose from.

We'll end this article with my favorite musical pieces that have appeared inside the Mesiria series so far:


- .::The Devil's Dance::. by calpomatt

- .::The Devil's Dance II::. by calpomatt


: Must-play

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Kaizerwolf said...

Battle Mode!!! I found it from SnailsAnimations and im proud to present: EarShot by Will Musser.

http://www.flashkit.com/loops/Ambient/Ear_Shot-Will_Mus-7594/index.php

Anonymous said...

Could you at least tell us what tool you use and let us figure out how to use it? I've scanned the RAM manually and can't figure out where the maxHP values are located. I'm tired of losing on this thing because of random luck. :-(

"How to Kongregate" said...

That would depend on how many people really care to know about it.

eva said...

I agree with the anonymous comment... it would be nice to at least have some notion as to where to start with the hacking.

Anonymous said...

i tried searching under float and other stuff but it didn't work.

Anonymous said...

I've had success modifying _root variables with some of the trainers like Katana, but when using these trainers they do not send results to Kongregate.

These trainers seem to all call the SetVariable() method on their flash activeX control.

There seems to be something going on with these _root variables, it would be interesting to know why CheatEngine cannot see these while the other trainers can.

Any info on what tool you are using would be helpful.

"How to Kongregate" said...

If you know about trainers then you've already been rather close to it. But I am not going to reveal it here publicly.

Anonymous said...

So does that mean you will reveal it privately to someone?

If not, then I suppose any game that uses _root variables is not eligible for a guide here (such as Streamline).

Anonymous said...

were do i find the LSO directory of the game

Anonymous said...

This game, can in fact, be hacked by Cheat Engine.

Anonymous said...

Hey!!!, Ive found that the .SOL Editor CAN HACK mesiria chp 2 rpg's BATLLE MODE!!!!, and im talking about the KONGREGATE VERSION.

Though im not much of an expert so I cannot know where to change the values. TRY IT.

Anonymous said...

Well, since the author will not reveal his methods, I will reveal one to you all.

I may not be using the same method as seen in the video, but this works nevertheless.

This method is one different than the traditional *8 methods that are widely known. It involves modifying the bytecode (instructions) of the flash game in memory so that changes are made. For example, anyone who has played this game knows that you start off with 80HP.

Through this method, you can change it so that you start of with 255 HP (or whatever number you wish). You can perform this method soley by using CheatEngine, however, a decompiler such as Flare is very useful.

Since BattleMode is giving people the most problems, I will run a scenario for this.

First, attach CheatEngine to your browser. Then, do a text search for 'Cvehusus_v'. You will probably find 2 addresses, use the first. Memory browse this address, and in this area, you will see a bit of variable names. These names denote a bit of code that gets run when the game first starts battle mode.

Beneath this, you will see a bunch of 'O's and other characters, this area is initialization code. Knowing that we start the game off with 80HP, we will look for that. Now, since this is in HEX, you should look for 50 (80d -> 50h). About midway through, you will find that [look for the first 'P' in the ascii area to the right].

You will see 3 bytes 15 07 50. This is the MaxHP. If you change it to 15 07 FF, you will have 255 MaxHP. You can even change it to 15 07 FF FF for 65535. I don't go more than that because I'm not sure what the limits are of modifying these addresses.

Now if you look further down you will see 16 07 06. Look familiar? That's because this is your MaxMP. If you look in the text at the top, you will see maxHP, maxpMP, LV, ST EN ...

etc. It appears that these are in numerical order. So, since we start at level 1, we should expect to find 17 07 01. A little bit to the right, and we do. Change this to 17 07 0F.

This gives you level 15, the max level for this chapter.

What this helps you accomplish is keeping the next changes we will be making. In my experimentation, these changes only lasted until I leveled or got a new item. So by making myself level 15, the game will not level me up and set me to the pre-determined stats for that level (however, you could change that if you wanted to spend more time).

Now, 18 07 07 is our strength, you can change that to 18 07 FF FF, to give yourself 65535 strength.

You should be able to take it from here. If not, I will not be posting any more help.

Try experimenting with other games, I have proven this works in StreamLine.

"How to Kongregate" said...

- I am never tied by any agreement that binds me to reveal at least one way of cheating for each game; it's all up to my own discretion. Don't try to push me around - you don't decide whatsoever I should write for my blog.

- Get some idea at here.

- Wake up dude, those you want to hack are never having anything to do with the .sol files.

"How to Kongregate" said...

Thanks for your kind instruction; it's fairly complicated for commoners so I will keep it, since it should require someone to have a relatively decent knowledge to have it working.

My method was way more polished and easier which is one of the reasons I don't wish it be made a public knowledge. Don't want to see whiners running around being able to perform something that powerful while not knowing a shit about coding.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the guide in the comments, it was clear and im pretty sure i know what to do, but one problem. After i change the values and stuff, i try the game but nothing had changed. I tried refreshing but that didn't work. sorry for being a noob. any help?

shanethe13 said...

I haven't attempted making trainers with Kongregate, so I'm not sure whether externally running the game will disable the chat, hence disabling badges.

However, another method you could try, is using Visual Basic to create a trainer. This is very simple, and only requires roughly 5lines of code, depending on how advanced you want the trainer to be.

I would describe how to create the trainer, step-by-step, however, "How To" does not want a guide such as that for this game, so it is up to you to find the information yourself.

"How to Kongregate" said...

I've just deleted an anonymous comment that attempted to attack me not revealing whatsoever information he so damn wanted. Don't be a lame ass here when you've got so much from this blog already.

Anonymous said...

I also want to thank the poster who explained how to find the variable values in memory. I was able to find the variable names but didn't understand how the values were organized, so I really appreciate it.


Also thanks to "how to kongregate", the information (s)he's put in here has helped me tremendously in figuring out how to mess with these games. It's more fun to figure things out on your own, but it's nice to have a place you can turn to when you can't figure something out.

Don't listen to the ungrateful losers who do nothing but whine because you won't hold their hand and chew their food for them. They're just sorry douchebags who've never had to figure out anything for themselves.

Anonymous said...

I'm guessing it may be something along the lines of an application to modify the variables inside firefox / ie etc. I've seen a dll that needed to be injected into IE at some point though I'm not sure if it worked or not.

Anonymous said...

this stupid dolphin badge is impossible. plz help all of us out

"How to Kongregate" said...

Yea, the lame idiota who insulted me must be so fucking sorry now that he was having me disposed of that quick.

bluedevil said...

i need to know what to do to get the cheat started, because i followed everything that the anonymous post said but any value changed, what do i do? what i am doing wrong?

x1372 said...

Well I'm glad you found my guide somewhat useful, was kinda surprised to see my nickname on this site. While I'm not a fan of the hacking this site advocates, I at least like the tips it gives on games, such as the dolphin olympics and thing thing arena 2 camping spot. Hopefully you guys will have nice guides on "legitimate" strategies in the future for all the games on kongregate.

Anonymous said...

Streamline isnt really that difficult to hack. All you need to do is search for 1C 96 07 00 08 0C 07 05 as an array of bytes using cheat engine and once there, you can change the 05 to FF. What this will do is start you off with 255 lives. It doesn't lock it while the game is running, but this should be more than plenty to get you through the game. And if you still need a guide to survive even with that many lives, try this link http://www.kongregate.com/forums/3/topics/974

"How to Kongregate" said...

255 lives should be more than enough really...

Gameace said...

I prefer the method I posted on the forums, much more unprofessional, but it makes it so it isn't blatantly obvious you're cheating. All I did was open up cheat engine and searched for the hittest's inside the game and removed them all. Leaving you with 5 lives at the end. It's MUCH more sloppy but I don't like blatant cheating just because, well it's obvious.

Anonymous said...

PLEASE HELP WITH THE IMPOSSIBLE BADGE! I personally hate this game because of the randomness that is involved in it. Please help me with my OCD and show me how to get this badge. This is the one badge that no matter how hard I try ("legitimately") I can't get. I have achieved a lot of the other impossible badges but I believe I will never get this one. It would be nice if someone could show me what program to use and what I should modify to tip the odds in my favor.

palaeontology_nut said...

... anonymous ... back on November 28, you posted a description of the steps needed to max out the HP and MP in mesiria chp 2. I must be doing a boy-look or something but while doing the memory browse of Cvehusus_v I cannot find the 15 07 50. Is it possible to throw a video of this browse somewhere or a static screen-print of the browse location ?

Anonymous said...

... anonymous ... back on November 28, you posted a description of the steps needed to max out the HP and MP in mesiria chp 2. I must be doing a boy-look or something but while doing the memory browse of Cvehusus_v I cannot find the 15 07 50. Is it possible to throw a video of this browse somewhere or a static screen-print of the browse location ?

Anonymous said...

Ok, it is definitely possible to cheat using Cheat Engine. My first thought is to just edit the starting LV to something high but I didn't manage to find that variable. Instead I followed what the other contributor said and looked for 'Cvehusus_v'. Now, you will see a bunch of values on the left such as 08 10 07 XX, 08 11 07 XX, 08 0B 07 XX, 08 0F 07 XX etc etc, usually followed by lots of zeros. E.g 08 10 07 is herb and 08 11 07 is nectar. I changed all these XX to DD, and replaced a couple trailing 00s to DD as well. I managed to get negative XP (never levels up), does about a few hundred per hit, lots of specials and meds, enemy hits me for 1 damage max. Just be patient and play with it. Good luck.

Anonymous said...

6 stars? I really don't think this game deserves it. The music it has can be annoying, especially the normal battle music (I turned sound off because I was annoyed by it). Besides, the Mardek series is better, having more plot, more expanded battle system, greater length, and the music is composed and played by the creater of the game. The only thing Max has on Mardek is that Max Mesiria has badges and Mardek does not.

"How to Kongregate" said...

Sounds like a nice recommendation; I'll check the MARDEK series out some other time.

Anonymous said...

Hi, its PirateInferno from Kongregate. Just wanted to say that this is a fantastic blog. I don't know if I'm allowed to reveal how I hacked max mesiria chp 1 and chp 2 but I would be glad to tell everyone.

Leave a comment to tell me if I may post the thing I did. Thanks.

"How to Kongregate" said...

Of course, feel free.

Anonymous said...

Ok, I used Niflheim for starters. You scan for variables than look at the variable list. Look for something simllar to the following: hp, maxhp, mp, maxmp, ST, EN, IN, SP. Change to as high as wanted. Items also can be changed to infinite. Money is untouched except for the selling of items. You can also change your exp, but you will need to re-do your changed stats after each level. This, you can do in 2nd chapter and in Battle Mode. As for the first chapter, I can only change MP HP and EXP so far. Hope this helps.

Anonymous said...

Ok Max Mesiria 2 is now the last badge i need and the battle mode destroys me so easily even when following the walkthrough posted here. I must have really bad luck. 90% of my badges i have gotten legitly i even got the dolphin badge today after 8 hours of practice. can anyone please explain how to beat this so i can relax :P

"How to Kongregate" said...

If you are seeking a legit method then I am afraid there's little others could help; as you already have pointed out, it's all about your luck with the randomized dice.

Anonymous said...

Finished! Without cheating!! Special thanks to x1372's great walkthrough!! it works great after a few trys ;))

Anonymous said...

I still think the anonymous explaination about directly changing the hex segment annotation such as 06 04 01 FF type lingo. If I stare at the code and follow the code to a given value, for some reason it appears more clear cut to me than .sol files. I've gotten every badge on Kongregate with this method actually. Even Balloon Invasion...which seemed to be the most challenging. AT least for me anyways. I always enjoy the postings on this site. ~Props to the webmaster~

Anonymous said...

Hey,

Just so you know I can hack streamlined, I have hacked quit a few game, both kong and non-kong. I always, ALWAYS try to get the badge firt but the impossible badge is just that, impossible. I have tried bot clean and unclean and can't seem to do either. I am no whining noob, this site I found by searching for max mesiria today. I normally don't ask for, or want help but now I am asking.

If you could contact me, even to tell me what you used, that would be great.

Asmodous.

Lordchip said...

Did you know there is a Max Mesiria Chp3 right ? http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/415627
Im telling you bc i know u love them.
cheers

"How to Kongregate" said...

Thanks, I know; I am actually waiting for it to go to Kongregate with badges otherwise I am afraid I have to get those articles of other badge games completed first though.

Anonymous said...

hi, this is a great blog and stuff and its helped me out. i think i figured out a way to modify some stats on this on kongregate. i used niflheim. the variable name for max hp is "_root.maxhp" and variable name for current hp is "_root.hp" same with mp but just swap "hp" for "mp. ill post other stat variable names as soon as i figure some more

wtflolbbq said...

k, im back. i also figured out that _root.def controls defense and _root.att controls attack. u get the general idea. i have not tried this on battle mode however. tell me if this works? :) hope i helped

wtflolbbq said...

sorry for posting so much. if the admin of this blog DOES let me comment this much, i just want to inform u all that my method DOES WORK ON BATTLE MODE! :) have fun with ur new badges

Anonymous said...

--------------------------------------
The Easy Way to Hack Max Mesiria Chp2 For the Impossible Badge
--------------------------------------

Requirements
==============
1. FireFox
2. Muspell FireFox Extension

-----
note
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I did this and it worked perfectly. I have the badge (Dude! You just completed the Ultimate Monster Slayer achievement in Max Mesiria Chp2 RPG and won the Ultimate Monster Slayer badge and 60 points!). Now I did it while sitting in level one of battle mode, so I'd start there.

Steps
==============
1. Load Max Mesiria Chp2 on Kongregate
2. On the top bar (with File, Edit, View, etc.), go to Tools, Muspell, Toggle Muspell.
2*. Now, you will probably need to continuosly try to get the right combination of Green light in the chat, and muspell to show the .swf of Max Mesiria Chp2, so just reload or close your browser until everything is ship-shape.
3. On Muspell, under the .swf list, choose Gameshell_xxxxxxxxxx.swf, with the 'x's being numbers.
4. On the bottom Variable bar (the one with the get variable and watch variable buttons next to it) search '_root.hp'. Click Watch Variable.
5. On the right side, under new value, type in something bigger (like 500) and freeze. Now your HP is frozen at 500.
6. Do the same thing for the other variables like '_root.ST' for strength and set it to 65523 (freeze). You can do others but they aren't needed.
7. Now you can go through battle mode without getting hurt and doing 50000+ damage!

Anonymous said...

Why hack a free Flash game? With another developer's app, no less?

So sad.

Peaceful Monk said...

I'm afraid I need help with "Niflheim", Everything on it works, but the screen above the hacks isnt their, even when I put the URL it just gives me a blank nothing, so I can't hack it. If you cannot help me, can you atleast tell me where to get Kitana?

Anonymous said...

I seriously think that Mardek 2 is much better. It also has good music.

Anonymous said...

Wow you people stink at this game all I did was buy 2 herbs and I beat the 1st boss at lvl.7!

Anonymous said...

your right, you're not bound to say anything... but seeming how its the entire point of your website as far as i'm concerned, i propose a boycott of How to Kongregate :O

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